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Message: [QUOTE="phil77, post: 5384873, member: 1169"] I don't get this board fascination with inefficient volume ISO scorers. The game has changed so much that they are just not winning players anymore. Especially ones as bad on defense as JJ was. I would rather keep Moore and replace JJ in the portal with a better more complete player that my Sophomore and Freshman can learn good habits from. That is how you build a program and build culture. Now that could have been what Red wanted and Moore said peace out anyway nobody knows but I doubt it. I don't think anyone really understands how bad JJ was this year. He took 16 shots a game to score just under 18 points per game. Shot 40% from the field 27% from 3 (on over 5 attempts per game) and 69% from the line. under 4 rebounds per game under 3 assists per game under 1 steal per game over 2 turnovers per game. Those are just the basic counting stats his advance stats are worse. [/QUOTE]