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Message: [QUOTE="manleyzoo, post: 1007601, member: 519"] Real estate is a long-term play typically not yielding annual income returns unless you're a house flipper. Investing in REITs also is long term with yields 3 - 5 years or more down the road. I'm in both and have been for years--it's your basic Cali investment. Averaging 10 percent annually these days in any equity or fund portfolio is a difficult thing to do for an individual investor. The market is too rigged against individuals. As for the D league, the pay is lousy so it's not like he's going to make a killing there. As for Europe or otherwise, there are more guys who play only a few years than guys like Bouie and Pace who make careers of it. More often than not NBA washouts are just that, washouts going back to trying to carve out a living afterwards. It ain't pretty in most cases. [/QUOTE]