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Message: [QUOTE="boog7, post: 1204985, member: 809"] I guess we can just agree to disagree. To me, all the reasons you cite for the poor W-L record are excuses. While they were all legitimate obstacles making the job of winning more difficult, imho, they can not explain away all the incompetent coaching and poor decision making put on display by Shafer and his staff this season. To me, Scott Shafer has the look, the sound, and the[I] feel[/I] of a loser. His W-L record and his team's poor weekly performances only confirm it for me. I simply don't think he has what it takes to lead a winning program at a P5 school. I'd love to be proven wrong -- I'd absolutely [U]love[/U] it -- but I seriously doubt I will be. If he returns in 2015, I fear he will only deepen SU's descent back into college football irrelevancy, and only further diminish the Syracuse football brand. Hope I'm wrong. [/QUOTE]