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Message: [QUOTE="SUbear, post: 1205597, member: 892"] Well I was 6' 1" 224# am now 67, and neither matters. I just know a good coaching job from a bad one. Grob had worse players than Shafer yes, but Shafer is doing poorly with better players. He has recruited as his assistants a bunch of old buddies, which is not usually a great idea, and he made a total novice his OC. This team is undisciplined, maybe a result of his coaching style(tries to be to much of their buddy). The offensive scheme were not apropo to their talents. If you think recruiting is all that matters you do not know football. Recruiting is important but so to is coaching the players you have and using their talents to the best advantage. Syracuse will not in the near future get the five star talent, therefor our coaching must be that much better. Every team except for a few true selectors needs better players. [/QUOTE]