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Message: [QUOTE="All4SU, post: 638401, member: 381"] I think ND is going to maintain their independence until pigs sprout wings and hell hosts an ice skating rink. I don't think ND EVER, EVER comes all in. I think the ACC should just tell ND, "Look, unless you give us reason to believe otherwise right now, we are going to assume you will never be on board." If you don't get something from them to indicate otherwise, plan accordingly. You don't have to cut them loose. But you don't have to just wait for something that's never going to happen either. [/QUOTE]