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Message: [QUOTE="Dick_in_MI, post: 3936930, member: 225"] I would like to think that Tommy puts the pressure on himself to improve but I am starting to wonder if, in year 5, it is going to happen. You are dead right though; we can't have another season where, for one reason or another, he is ineffective. It is also nice to know that (pending what we see on the field) we have someone behind him...or that we have Tommy behind Shrader. Either one. I just want somebody to seize the job and make our opponents pay. If it is either guy, I'm 100% on board with whomever emerges. If we can roll Otto the Orange out there and have him be effective, that works too. Whatever it takes. [/QUOTE]