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Message: [QUOTE="NJCuse97, post: 5205878, member: 5058"] I agree and I believe most here do as well, but the show is known for being outside. Nov. 30 outside in Syracuse isn't likely to help tamp down the rhetoric of Syracuse being cold and gray in the winter. I can see both Herbie (closet SU [FONT=courier new]disdainer[/FONT] I think) and McAfee, who is not so closeted. Couple that with stories from Saban about being cold in 1977 in Archbold, or having warned southern teams at the beginning of the season that they don't want to have to play in Syracuse for the playoffs, and it's ready-made for what may even be a false narrative about how cold it is. [/QUOTE]