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Message: [QUOTE="MadNY3, post: 929559, member: 441"] I don't think we need any other validation other than what we know. We've been a program that cratered into Siberia 9-10 years ago, stunk for a couple years, were losing kids to Central Directional State or maybe just beating them. Lately we've gone to bowls three of the past four years and for the first time in a LONG time, we're beating major legit schools that OrangePA listed out in some serious football states. Give us a C, a B, the letter Q...gang we know how good this class relative to what our own school has done over the past 15 years. And it is pretty good vis-a-vis our own performance of late. [/QUOTE]