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Message: [QUOTE="OttoMets, post: 2416468, member: 716"] Big men were so much more skilled 20 and 30 years ago; guys like Seikaly would be off to the NBA after that second-year production. Fab -- RIP -- became an excellent defender by his second year. But that's not the whole game. And he was still as raw as anyone on offense; he was finding himself before the suspension, but he could still be an adventure around the rim and didn't have a post-up game to speak of. His offense was dunks from pick-and-rolls with Scoop and the occasional 15-footer. That is, offensive skill that every starting center in the Big East possessed in 1989. Stuff that Conrad McRae could do while everyone complained that he wasn't as good as LeRon Ellis (who only could draw complaints that he wasn't as good as Seikaly). [/QUOTE]