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Message: [QUOTE="Ish88888, post: 2714586, member: 5559"] I love ED and have been talking him up for 4 years. That said, he and this offense haven't played with consistent rhythm yet. He isnt putting up gaudy numbers. He has run well and smarter but he lacks the wr talent to put up heisman numbers. The offensive play calling hasn't favored throwing the ball downfield, even into the end zone from the redzone. He is a bit of a different qb this year and actually spun it better last year. Sure, his shoulder might have something to do with this but also think he may be too bulky and too worried about the guns. Any thrower, whether it be fb or baseball will lose flexibility with inc shoulder and bicep and triceps bulk. The last time we saw guns like ED's was tebow and we all know how he threw the ball. Down shift the guns ED , qbs college and pro have moderate sized arm's for a reason. [/QUOTE]