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[QUOTE="RF2044, post: 1172732, member: 40"] I agree--we should be angling for vacated wins, because that is the least impactful outcome. Even so, we could make the argument that it is historically significant, given that JB is second all time in wins [which hopefully will attach additional weight to that "penalty" that it might otherwise have attributed to it]. I don't think that a postseason ban is a given--we'll see how serious the improper benefit allegations are [and I reserve to change my mind on this once we see what they are]. The NCAA came at us with something like 256 original allegations in 1992, only to have those go down to 12 or so that were mostly BS. Are any of these going to stick? We'll see. But a postseason ban isn't a given. If you mean something different by 'probation' -- then we're not on the same page, and this paragraph may not perfectly apply to what you're saying. By 'probation,' do you mean a time period where we have to be on the straight and narrow, but don't necessarily incur additional penalties as long as we keep our nose clean? Because sign me up for that "penalty." Scholarship restrictions are quite common. But again, look at how contemporary peer programs have been punished. Whatever transgressions we're guilty of, this is not anything on par with Penn State. Consider the Miami / OSU examples--if they lost 1 scholarship for football for much more significant infractions, then there's our baseline. And if our infractions aren't on par with what those schools did, why should we accept that penalty at all? Lots of in flight logistics to consider. Thank god the NCAA is at its lowest point in terms of public perception, inconsistent enforcement, and member institutions challenging their authority / impartiality. All of those factors will work in our favor IF / when SU chooses to fight back. [/QUOTE]
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