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Message: [QUOTE="Scooch, post: 4820594, member: 628"] Correct. Which is why I'm going to pound the [I]"Then fix it or shut up"[/I] drum forever more. We've known our obstacles clearly for 20+ years. No reasonable person expects SU to compete for national titles, or even ACC titles. Most just want us to be a program that can potentially (not even [I]every[/I] year) win 8-9 games and be competitive with most everyone on the schedule. If our limitations prevent even that modest ceiling then we should just stop trying. SU needs to get their s-h!t together, fund the facilities, fund NIL to an appropriate level, pay the football staff competitive salaries, and then let the chips fall. If we aren't capable of doing that then they need to leave us all alone and stop whining. [/QUOTE]