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Message: [QUOTE="SoBristol, post: 1592873, member: 485"] True, but look at the trajectory at each of Clawson's stops. Took over a struggling program, started slow, built a winner, moved up the food chain, and did it again -- Fordham, Richmond, BGSU. Has done better in year 2 at Wake in stats, but hasn't produced an instant turn-around -- and that is the point, Wake fans might have to wait for the results. For what it is worth (and I believe Babers will do great with what Shafer has left in the cupboard), Clawson left Babers his star QB, star RB, and most of his receivers. As a HC (only 4 years in the sample) Babers won quickly at E. Illinois (with Jimmy Garoffolo as his QB!). In his first year at BG, had some fall-off from Clawson's best year (relying on a second string QB), then had a great 2015 when Matt Johnson returned at QB. Common denominator -- helps to have a great QB. [/QUOTE]