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Message: [QUOTE="jordoo, post: 1782480, member: 569"] Irving and Love are second tier stars that simply do not work well together or with LeBron overall. They are very poor defensively and seem to have disappeared offensively against GST. Thompson and Green are all around good two way players. You can see the difference its obvious. Even Barnes, Livingston, Iggy all seem much more well rounded two way players than the Cavs supporting cast. [/QUOTE]