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Message: [QUOTE="HRE Otto IV, post: 3883109, member: 5685"] For SU to make it as an at large out of the Atlantic we need to go 12-1, 11-1, 11-2, or 10-2 with those 2 losses being to Top 15 teams. For SU to make it as an at large without divisions we need to go 12-1, 11-2, or 10-2 with those 2 losses being to Top 15 teams. I don't think 10-3 in either case gets us in. Without divisions we can go 6-2 in conference and get lucky in the ACC CG. If we had a strong OOC schedule we might even get into the playoff at 9-4. For sure at 10-3. So what is more realistic a 10 win regular season? Or 6-2 in conference with the best team in the ACC, who is already a lock for the playoffs, overlooking us and getting upset in the CCG? [/QUOTE]