Expectations for Broyld in 15'

[bothsocksup]

I can't believe Broyld is in his final season this year. Will this year be the year that he breaks out? Or will this be a story of what could have been. In my recent memory, I cant think of a player that has come with as much hype and promise resting on his shoulders. I for one am hoping Broyld figures it out and becomes the player we all thought we were going to see

thoughts. Boom or bust at the end of 20515?

 

[Millhouse]

i expect no tds and i expect him to still be our best qb

 

[reedny]

i expect no tds and i expect him to still be our best qb

lol

 

[Chip]

 

[javadoc]

I can't believe Broyld is in his final season this year. Will this year be the year that he breaks out? Or will this be a story of what could have been. In my recent memory, I cant think of a player that has come with as much hype and promise resting on his shoulders. I for one am hoping Broyld figures it out and becomes the player we all thought we were going to see

thoughts. Boom or bust at the end of 20515?

Expecting bust - not to be snarky, based solely on past evidence. It will be helpful if Lester can figure out how to use him properly.

250 yds receiving, maybe 1 TD. He'll contribute, but it will seem like a bust given initial expectations.

 

[WickedOrange]

I predict he's going to go Rakeem Mother -in Christmas this season. I can't wait to see it.

 

[ImperialOrange]

638 yards 4 TD's

 

[WickedOrange]

10 touchdowns and 2 mid-field junk displays. Book it.

 

[anomander]

Kind of wish he was kept at RB.

 

[kcsu]

break out year. 5th round NFL

 

[Orijinal]

8 TD's this year

 

[CuseCrew08]

I hope hes on the jugs machine daily.

 

[dollarbill44]

I have no expectations whatsoever. If he makes some nice plays, I'll be happy. After all, we've been hearing for 3 years now just how physically gifted he is.

 

[OrangeBlood]

This may be totally off base but I don't think he plays a ton and therefore doesn't get a ton of touches. The staff seems to love Phillips in that H-back role. Those two will split reps and neither will have a huge season statistically.

 

[Scooch]

I expect that he'll short arm a few over the middle, miss some blocks, and get hurt.

 

[DownTheField]

I expect that he'll short arm a few over the middle, miss some blocks, and get hurt.

Hopefully he realizes he's a big kid and getting hit doesn't hurt very much. Until that happens he'll always be focused on the footsteps rather than catching the ball.

 

[Scooch]

Hopefully he realizes he's a big kid and getting hit doesn't hurt very much. Until that happens he'll always be focused on the footsteps rather than catching the ball.

I also expect him to get, like, 5 whole yards after a catch and have to read people here gush about his awesome athletic ability.

Oh, and he'll probably need someone to run out to him and tell him what play has just been called too.

 

[sutomcat]

I can't believe Broyld is in his final season this year. Will this year be the year that he breaks out? Or will this be a story of what could have been. In my recent memory, I cant think of a player that has come with as much hype and promise resting on his shoulders. I for one am hoping Broyld figures it out and becomes the player we all thought we were going to see

thoughts. Boom or bust at the end of 20515?

I think a lot of people forgot or are unaware he had the 2nd most receptions in the history of the program for a sophomore (48), and that was after he was immediately after he was switched from RB to WR.

GM did a remarkable job botching what should have been a good offensive unit last season by making a variety of awful moves but the way he tried to use Ashton was perhaps his biggest shortcoming. I think he was moved to a different position 3 times in one season. Not great for a guy who is probably not well suited to learning responsibilities for several positions, especially not while hurt or playing hurt most of the year.

The way GM used the H-back position, where the receiver get the ball in tight coverage over the middle most of the time, is not the right way to use Broyld. It puts a premium on toughness and ability to catch the ball in traffic.

For a player who is not a natural receiver and doesn't have a lot of experience catching the ball, it is crazy to put him in that position. He is best when you get him the ball in relatively open areas, where his ability to make people miss and run to open space is put to best use. Get him in situations where he needs to beat one man to get a good gain and he will be successful. A lot.

Anyway, I think if Ashton is used in ways that emphasize his strengths and help to hide his weaknesses, he will be successful.

 

[OttoinGrotto]

I think a lot of people forgot or are unaware he had the 2nd most receptions in the history of the program for a sophomore (48), and that was after he was immediately after he was switched from RB to WR.

GM did a remarkable job botching what should have been a good offensive unit last season by making a variety of awful moves but the way he tried to use Ashton was perhaps his biggest shortcoming. I think he was moved to a different position 3 times in one season. Not great for a guy who is probably not well suited to learning responsibilities for several positions, especially not while hurt or playing hurt most of the year.

The way GM used the H-back position, where the receiver get the ball in tight coverage over the middle most of the time, is not the right way to use Broyld. It puts a premium on toughness and ability to catch the ball in traffic.

For a player who is not a natural receiver and doesn't have a lot of experience catching the ball, it is crazy to put him in that position. He is best when you get him the ball in relatively open areas, where his ability to make people miss and run to open space is put to best use. Get him in situations where he needs to beat one man to get a good gain and he will be successful. A lot.

Anyway, I think if Ashton is used in ways that emphasize his strengths and help to hide his weaknesses, he will be successful.

That's true, but I thought Broyld had been pretty much set at wide out and then injuries to Salt Badger and Avant ended up moving him back in to the slot (I refuse to call it H-back). That move was made as a result of other factors, not to yank Broyld around.

 

[LeMoyneCuse]

I hope he has a good year.

 

[sutomcat]

That's true, but I thought Broyld had been pretty much set at wide out and then injuries to Salt Badger and Avant ended up moving him back in to the slot (I refuse to call it H-back). That move was made as a result of other factors, not to yank Broyld around.

First, this isn't all on GM, Broyld has bounced around from position to position his entire career.

QB to RB to WR to HB to WR to HB.

That isn't the way to get optimal performance from a player, especially one who isn't known for his knowledge of the playbook. I am not saying Broyld has been moved so many times to yank him around. There were reasons for all the moves. But that doesn't mean the moves all made sense.

He is back at H-back now, last I knew, but from what I have seen with the Lester offense, this is a much different role than the H-back was under GM.

It is more of a wing back position, where Ashton will get a number of carries each game running the ball, often on sweeps where he will have a good chance to run in open space.

When they throw the ball to this H-back position, it looks like the patterns will be more in the flats, down the field, in areas where he will typically face single coverage. To me, that is a much better fit for his talents.

Sad how many haters there are out there who can only say bad things about this guy. He has been a good soldier who has put the team in front of his own needs from the day he stepped on campus. He deserves better.

 

[SU2NASA]

Heisman.

 

[OttoinGrotto]

First, this isn't all on GM, Broyld has bounced around from position to position his entire career.

QB to RB to WR to HB to WR to HB.

That isn't the way to get optimal performance from a player, especially one who isn't known for his knowledge of the playbook. I am not saying Broyld has been moved so many times to yank him around. There were reasons for all the moves. But that doesn't mean the moves all made sense.

He is back at H-back now, last I knew, but from what I have seen with the Lester offense, this is a much different role than the H-back was under GM.

It is more of a wing back position, where Ashton will get a number of carries each game running the ball, often on sweeps where he will have a good chance to run in open space.

When they throw the ball to this H-back position, it looks like the patterns will be more in the flats, down the field, in areas where he will typically face single coverage. To me, that is a much better fit for his talents.

Sad how many haters there are out there who can only say bad things about this guy. He has been a good soldier who has put the team in front of his own needs from the day he stepped on campus. He deserves better.

Yeah he has definitely had one of the most bizarre career paths as anyone in recent memory. I'm hoping he ends on a high note and think he can make a big impact, it's just hard to pinpoint how realistic that is because he did have such a solid sophomore campaign, and last season was so meh. The optimist in me thinks since he has shown production there's no reason to believe he can't do more, the pessimist is a little hesitant because he took a step back that's maybe explained by the position change, but maybe he's also a player with some limitations. I'd love to see him end the year with 30+ receptions and some TDs.

 

[Brian Orange]

He's the Paul Harris of football.

 

[Frozen]

He's the Paul Harris of football.

Lavar Lobdell was first, though.