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Message: [QUOTE="kcsu, post: 2314576, member: 528"] p Its not weird. What is proven to work at the college level is continuity. You have to build three major things. 1: your system/culture 2: recruiting. In most cases relationships with HS coaches/programs take years. Most players are offered sophomore and Junior years 3:knowledge of opponents. All of these areas require time. Yes i thought that Shaf if provided with 3 more years would have turned the corner as i liked Lester as on OC. As to Dino he is an upgrade to Shaf which is why i would extend him now. If you look at SU football our best success has come via continuity. Ben Mac Paul. Simply put. I disagree with you. [/QUOTE]