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Message: [QUOTE="orangecuse, post: 788035, member: 668"] You really hit the nail on the head with your last sentence. I completed get what SWC is arguing, however, kids today generally are all about me, me, me and most are incredibly spoiled. Kids today feel they're entitled to everything and what these universities have to offer and throw at them are well deserved, as if they've long earned the right at the ripe 'ol age of 17/18. A complete societal breakdown imo. Modern day parenting and its relative psycho babble approach, philosophy & stroking techniques has spawned & contributed to today's creations. Oh, that reminds me, I need to go get that latest '[I]my kid is the greatest'[/I] whatever bumper sticker and placed it on my car. ;) :crazy: [/QUOTE]