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Message: [QUOTE="OttoMets, post: 2340203, member: 716"] The system and a whole lot of individuals failed Fab. No doubt. (Sounds like Fab failed Fab, too, but I really don't want to get into that.) If someone went to the writing center and found a staffer or a tutor to engage in plagiarism, I'd be really surprised. And if something like that happened, it would be a case of an individual doing something wrong, not a case of systemic dishonesty on the part of the writing program (I speak with certainty on this one, because I know a number of people in the basement of HBC and know them to be of the highest character). And, again, even that would surprise me. I knew a few tutors in different departments who got pressure from players to do their work for them (not help, but work); these people were grad students who wanted no part of that. It was a real problem in that era. As FlyRodder said, the NCAA scratches the surface on these cases and rolls with a penalty commensurate with the circumstantial evidence they uncover, not with the smoking gun we read about. BTW, to your last line, perversely, this is why we have independent help like the writing center and shouldn't have AD/hoops operations staff interfering with schoolwork. Even assuming Fab was ignorant of the honor code or academic honesty regulations, getting coursework help at HBC would've helped set him straight and, if he was willing, gotten him assistance without putting him into a bad spot. That's what's so disgraceful about the college sports sham and SU's (AD, basketball program, provost) involvement in this: they're only looking to get an athletic advantage without regard for the player's or the institution's best interest, and in taking a shortcut they brought all the sanctions on themselves. [/QUOTE]

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