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Message: [QUOTE="jncuse, post: 2508975, member: 1969"] No one is claiming that a win against Pitt is moving the needle. But you must win to avoid a bad loss. That is where it comes into play. I call these games pure nuisance games, because they can't help you, but they can certainly hurt you. The idea is that 9-9 might be enough to get in by itself (it depends on the movement around us), but losing that first game would take it away from you. At 8-10, that Pitt/GTech win does nothing for us, except that it puts us into position to win a quality game in round 2. [/QUOTE]