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Message: [QUOTE="Orangepace, post: 1122074, member: 322"] Don't disagree with much of what you said. Not sure I agree fully with the "underachieved" for the 2012 team. SU lost a nailbiter to NW, played #2 USC (who had more 1st round picks on the team than SU has had in a decade) really tough without Pugh, a 1st round pick, lost to a ranked Rutgers team (I know they were garbage), lost no games by more than 14 pts and the total of the games lost spread was -41 over 6 games, or an average of 6.8 pts. Quite the run-on sentence, I know. It was statistically the best offense Syracuse had run out in over a decade. That team did have the GRob leftovers you mentioned, but also was heavy on starters Marrone had recruited. I definitely don't disagree that he rubbed a significant number of people wrong. But nobody can argue he left SU better than when he arrived. Arguably, for SU it ultimately may be the best thing he could have done at the time. [/QUOTE]