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Message: [QUOTE="omniorange, post: 2858262, member: 636"] Not well, but does everything have to be measured against the SEC? It's not as though the thoughts about the ACC from all the pundits are much different in comparison with the Big Ten either. Clemson - Ohio State Syracuse - Michigan NC State - Penn State BC - NW Pitt - Iowa UVA - Wisc Duke - MSU Not saying the ACC wins if the comparison is like the above one and not the SEC one, but the chasm is far, far less, imho. Ultimately this was the worse overall year for the ACC since 2013. I think next year will likely be another "down" year as well. I do believe 2020 and beyond is when the ACC will challenge both the SEC and the Big Ten as best football conference on a regular basis. Especially if the ACCN and the $$$ it will add to each ACC schools coffers is what some in the conference think it will eventually be. Cheers, Neil [/QUOTE]