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Message: [QUOTE="tptcuse, post: 5638363, member: 1119"] The other thing rarely mentioned on this board is that just because most people think Red is a "nice guy" it doesn't mean he has ever had anyone in the community excited about him as a coach. His attempts at PR are terrible to say the least. He's a boring guy. I never hear anyone defend him and it's not all because of losses. He brings no energy or enthusiasm to the fanbase or the town. Coach Jack had a poor season last year, but she still had charisma. Fran had a terrible season this year but already has ties to the community and fanbase. Red is just there. [/QUOTE]