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Message: [QUOTE="orangecuse, post: 38820, member: 668"] Oh now come on. If you truly believe that 4-5 star recruits aren't generally more physically talented at the time of their recruitment (thereby a higher potential/ceiling) then your viewpoint appears to be a rather obtuse one. Does it guarantee great success or that 2-3 star types can't develop into excellent players, even make the pros, of course not. SU has had its share of lower rated recruits turn out spectacular, exceeding expectations, making it to the NFL. However, there clearly is a direct causal relationship between teams that typically get these kids and teams which do not and their school's general overall success. It's foolish to claim otherwise. Why do Ivy league schools consistently attract the brightest students? Do you think excellent grades/SAT scores aren't a contributing factor? Of course there are exceptions, as you implied with your Notre Dame example and their recent lack of success regardless of all those 4-5 star types, however, how about all the schools that are consistently at the top, i.e. Alabama, Florida, LSU, Texas, OU, USC, OSU, UM, etc., etc. Same thing in college hoops... Additionally, maybe TheMayor hasn't seen any of these kids, who cares, have you? He's not claiming to be a scout or a so-called expert in the field. Isn't that what the plethora of scouting services out there do? For us to take that enormous amount of information and take it for what it's worth. I'm certain that a lot of the information is substantial and of pretty good assessment, otherwise the various schools wouldn't use them as a tool. I do not think any of the aforementioned schools above will be shifting their recruitment anytime soon for the 2 star type in lieu of the 4-5 star kind...call them crazy I guess... [/QUOTE]

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