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Message: [QUOTE="elimunelson, post: 2683602, member: 615"] i don't think people realize how irrelevant Syracuse is to the casual fan. We are lunatics for sticking around thick and thin but the normal person IS raking leaves and doing other things b/c the product has been dreadful for 17 years. You lose your customers when your products stink. If the attendance is 38k it's 38k hard core fans. The 5-6k additional fans are the curiosity seakers. They'll come if we win. [/QUOTE]