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Message: [QUOTE="qdawgg, post: 2683826, member: 52"] Noon start vs. later start isn't going to make a difference in 5 - 7K butts in the seat. People are either going to show up or they're not. If I don't want to waste my saturday with a noon game, I'm not going to mow the lawn/rake the leaves and then go to the dome at 3 - 4 in the afternoon. I'm either deciding to go or not. The casual fan has no idea whether FSU is good or not this year. They just know it's FSU. But at the end of the day it's only game 3 of the season, preceding 2 bad seasons, and preceding previous years of getting your hopes up for big games only to look terrible at home. I've been there for those games, they suck if your putting in 5 hours of drive time. Some of those Shafer games were almost as dreadful as Grob games. The casual fan needs more consistent wins to invest time, money, and energy. [/QUOTE]