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Message: [QUOTE="General Joe, post: 2895740, member: 6967"] With all due respect this is getting ridiculous from a common sense perspective. How can you evaluate compare rank without a baseline???????? The rankings are the baseline. Thats the reason we have a pre season ranking. Again why is it do you think a team can move up or down in the rankings from game one if they beat a team higher rsnked or lose to a team lower ranked? How can you have a non conference SOS if its not based on the rankings. Again tgis is really just common sense. Just think about it. Here are the Ken Pom metrics. Look at his SOS metrics. How does he determine if your schedule is tough??????? [URL="https://kenpom.com"]2019 Pomeroy College Basketball Ratings[/URL] I've read some of your post and your a thoughtful person so I cant understand why you dont get this. Let me try one different way. When you look at teams schedule how do you determine if its tough or not if you dont use the rankings? [/QUOTE]