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Message: [QUOTE="HRE Otto IV, post: 4100192, member: 5685"] Your baseline is better than JB's record. You might want to go find a new team to root for. In today's landscape it is very hard to have that type of success at ANY P5 school. There is too much parity. There is also the kids leaving early issue which didn't happen 10 years ago. Heck since we joined the ACC Coach K's W% in ACC play yields a 13.8 and 6.2 record. If you want to take out last Covid season it is still only 14.4 and 5.6. I don't expect Duke nor UNC to average 14-6 going forward. So IMO it is unrealistic to expect SU to average 13-7. If we are winning 2/3 of our games, we as a fan base should be content. That should be our baseline. Under 2/3 you get fired. Which equates to a 24-12 overall record and will keep us a Top 15 program. Telling a HC that they get fired for 26-11 is insane. [/QUOTE]