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Message: [QUOTE="rmtsu, post: 697278, member: 785"] While winning may help bring bigger crowds the Michigan game in 1999 is telling, coming off very good McNabb years, we were 2-0 with a storied program coming in, this should have been sold out before the season started (what hurt was that SU packaged the Michigan game with a directional Michigan game to discourage Michigan fans from buying up tickets, what it did was discourage SU fans apparently) and we still couldn't technically sell it out, still tickets available on game day. So yes winning will help even in the past when we've had good teams it hasn't been a guarantee. In the past I would have a party (family and friends) on a game day and would have ~20-30 people come up for a game, usually one of the marquee games for the year (Florida, Fl St, Michigan, Ohio St., BYU, VT, Oklahoma...) and have never had problems getting decent seats for the game for everyone. I've had problems over the years even giving away my season tickets with a parking pass - good seats and nice parking location. Just not enough interest from the casual fan. For the BYU game I had a couple extra and tried to sell them to someone outside the dome for $5 a piece, the guy wanted to pay $5 for both, I ripped them up in front of him and told him, you said you can do better so now go try and went into the dome to join my group. It would be nice to average a much higher number of fans and get close to a sellout for the name opponents but from what I see and hear, the average fan in the area is an orange fan when they are winning but not enough to go to the games. I went to Carousel a couple years ago after a game and people saw our orange shirts and asked if SU played and how they did. Not just a few but a lot of people. Gameday just isn't an event for enough people around here. The other factor is that the younger crowds that filled the dome for football and basketball back in the early 90's has gotten older, with families, many moved away, and many just aren't as interested in going to the games for many reasons, many that have been stated above, but for most in this area, a gameday just isn't the event it is in other places that draw well or have bigger fan bases. I'd like to see the attitudes change but even winning won't be the cure all based on what I've seen in the past. [/QUOTE]

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