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Football, the Newest Partisan Divide

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To the list of issues that divide the country along partisan lines, you can add an unusual item: football.

Yes, virtually every slice of America still watches football in enormous numbers. But blue America — particularly the highly educated Democratic-leaning areas of major metropolitan areas — is increasingly deciding that it doesn’t want its sons playing football.

The number of boys playing high school football has fallen 15 percent over the last six years in both Minnesota and Wisconsin, according to the National Federation of State High School Associations. The decline in Colorado has been 14 percent. It has been 8 percent in Massachusetts and Maryland, 7 percent in New York and 4 percent in California.

Each of these states voted Democratic in the last two presidential elections, and each is among the more educated states in the nation, measured by the share of the population with a bachelor’s degree.

My colleagues John Branch and Billy Witz recently wrote about the growing number of high school seasons that have been canceled prematurely because the teams could not field enough players deemed to be healthy. Of the nine examples in the article — from the East Coast, the Midwest and the West — eight were in states that voted for President Obama twice. (The exception was Montana.)

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High school football players warming up before a game in Hartselle, Ala., last month.CreditGary Cosby Jr./The Decatur Daily, via Associated Press
“We’re just looking out for their safety,” said Justin Bakkethun, the coach of the Cherry High School team, in Democratic-leaningnortheast Minnesota, which ended its season early.

This column is not meant to be another one heralding the death of football. I don’t have any idea what will happen to football playing and watching over the next few decades. It’s easy to imagine any number of outcomes.

On the one hand, football is akin to a secular religion for many Americans. It’s a tribal way of organizing life, complete with special garments, a sense of identity and weekly rituals. Football has its own annual holidays: the Iron Bowl in late November for Alabama, the Michigan-Ohio State game for the industrial Midwest and the Thanksgiving games and Super Bowl for the entire country.

At a time when audiences for nearly every other form of entertainment are splintering, football’s shows no sign of shrinking. For more than 30 years, I have been part of that audience, watching football, and lots of it, with every close friend or relative I have.

Yet culture can change. As your grandparents can tell you, horse racing, boxing and weekly moviegoing were all once leading forms of entertainment. And when mass culture meets public health, change that once seemed unfathomable can occur pretty rapidly.

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Football, Slowly Losing Ground in High Schools
The decline in boys playing high school football has been larger over the past six years than the decline for any other major boys’ sport.

Boys playing each sport, as a percentage of all male high school athletes
2007-08
2013-14
Football
Baseball
Basketball
Soccer
Track & field
Wrestling
10%
15
20
25
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Source: Analysis of data from National Federation of State High School Associations
Think about smoking or seatbelts. They’re relevant analogies because exhortations to stop smoking and wear seatbelts were once largely relegated to liberal eggheads. As the evidence mounted, though, those causes went mainstream.

Today, it’s clear that a large swath of liberal, college-educated America has changed its mind about the wisdom of playing football. A recent poll conducted by the RAND Corporation for The Upshot asked people about their attitudes toward having their children playing a series of sports. Nationwide, only 55 percent of respondents said they would be comfortable with their sons playing football. The numbers for baseball, basketball, soccer and track were all above 90 percent.

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The concerns about football cut across demographic groups, but they were the most intense among Democratic voters who had graduated from college. In fact, the attitudes of three other groups — Obama voters without a bachelor’s degree, Romney voters without one and Romney voters with one — were strikingly similar. Between 58 percent and 65 percent of each said they would be comfortable with their son playing football. Only 32 percent of 2012 Obama voters with a bachelor’s degree gave that answer.

Football was the only sport for which someone’s political views helped predict their comfort level, Katherine Grace Carman and Michael Pollard of RAND noted. Relative to less violent sports, hockey also had a large percentage of people saying they wouldn’t be comfortable with their child playing. But hockey is less popular— and opinions about it didn’t break along partisan lines.

What happens next? The best guess is probably that the future of football will be decided by medical research. It’s now clear that many N..L. players are at significant risk of brain damage. But we know less about the risks for high school and youth players, who play less and hit less hard, as Jonathan Chait, himself a liberal, noted in a New York magazine essay, “What Liberals Get Wrong About Football.”

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The Blue-State Football Blues
Many of the sharpest declines in football participation among high school boys have taken place in states that voted Democratic in recent presidential elections.

Percentage-point change in boys playing each sport, among all boys playing high school sports, from 2007–08 to 2013–14
Colorado
Massachusetts
New Jersey
California
Ohio
Georgia
Pennsylvania
Illinois
Florida
U.S.
New York
Mississippi
Missouri
Texas
North Carolina
-3.2
-2.2
-2.2
-2.1
-2.1
-2.0
-2.0
-1.8
-1.2
-1.2
-1.1
-0.7
-0.7
-0.4
1.3
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Source: Analysis of data from National Federation of State High School Associations
It’s entirely possible that further research will show that most levels of football carry risks not wildly different from, say, soccer (with its repeated headers). It’s also possible that a combination of rule changes and new equipment will moderate the dangers of football, including in the N..L. In those cases, football would probably remain a national obsession.

But that’s not the only realistic outcome, no matter how big football is today.

Millions of parents have already decided that youth football brings serious health risks to the brain, and science may ultimately prove those worries correct. If it does, lawsuits will follow on behalf of former players, much as the N..L. has agreed to pay hundreds of millions of dollars to injured ex-players. “When universities and school boards have to start paying out substantial settlements, the debate will change,” says Daniel Okrent, who has written histories of both baseball and Prohibition.

For now, most fans are willing to ignore the health damage that N..L. players expose themselves to. We make ourselves feel better by saying that the players know the risks. “I would not let my son play pro football,” Mr. Obama recently told David Remnick of The New Yorker. But N..L. players “know what they’re doing,” the president added. “They know what they’re buying into. It is no longer a secret. It’s sort of the feeling I have about smokers, you know?”

Of course, that argument cuts both ways, given the sharp decline in smoking rates over the last few decades.

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Anyone who insists that football’s future is secure would do well to remember the history of boxing. In the early 20th century, it was one of the country’s major sports, drawing huge crowds, radio audiences and, later, television viewers. My grandfather took a bus from Philadelphia to Yankee Stadium in 1938 to watch Joe Louis knock out Max Schmeling. In the 1980s, my father would pop popcorn and let me stay up late watching big fights on HBO.

But eventually, with Muhammad Ali and so many other boxers suffering from obvious brain damage, the problems became too big to ignore. My family — like so many others, regardless of politics, class or region — stopped watching.

Football isn’t doomed to that path, but the sport is not invulnerable, either. Just imagine if you told the 70,000 people in Yankee Stadium on June 22, 1938, that one day their grandchildren wouldn’t even be able to name the heavyweight champion of the world.

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http://www.nytimes.com/2014/11/04/u...=top-news&WT.nav=top-news&_r=0&abt=0002&abg=1
 
The author apparently has never heard the phrase "correlation does not imply causation" in regards to his education vs football participation claim. Has he polled parents to see if the ones pulling their kids out have bachelor's degrees or is he just making up making assumptions?

The reason so many parents are pulling their kids out of football is the media, plain and simple. I would argue that blue states watch/listen to CNN and other tripe regularly, and those media outlets are on the "football is bad" bandwagon. The concussion argument is fully at play because 1) the NFL is the most popular sport in this country and 2) there's a whole hell of a lot of money involved.

However, if you look at concussion statistics per player capita, football is not the most dangerous sport. Hockey is. Oh, and look what sport is closely behind football...that's right, the new darling of the US sports scene - Soccer. But statistics be damned, football is the bad guy right now. Your sport will be next, you can rest assure.
 
I would argue that blue states watch/listen to CNN and other tripe regularly, and those media outlets are on the "football is bad" bandwagon.

Do you have research to support this?
 
Do you have research to support this?

lol, I knew someone was going to point that out. Okay, I'll remove the CNN part, but suffice it to say that the media has definitely been hammering at football and the concussion issue for some time.
 
lol, I knew someone was going to point that out. Okay, I'll remove the CNN part, but suffice it to say that the media has definitely been hammering at football and the concussion issue for some time.
As well they should until more is done to prevent concussions.
 
lol, I knew someone was going to point that out. Okay, I'll remove the CNN part, but suffice it to say that the media has definitely been hammering at football and the concussion issue for some time.

I definitely agree with that based on no research to back it up, lol. I always take exception to clumping people together because of political affiliation and I'm not even a Democrat.
 
OrangeinBoston said:
As well they should until more is done to prevent concussions.

Sure but at the same time don't act like football is the only sport with this issue.

That said, I am firmly on the side of "if you accept the risks, then you should be free to pursue".
 
The knee injuries for teenage girls playing soccer are astounding.
 
I think it's an issue of a societal change. Anyone that plays football knows you have to bust your hind parts to be a player. A lot of kids today don't want to dedicate their time to offseason training when there are other sports they can simply show up and play.

“The kids are telling me they don’t want to spend their summer in the heat practicing,” said Miller, who plans to retire after this, his 23rd season. “They’d rather sit in the air conditioning and watch TV and play video games. They say they’re willing to come out when the season starts, but you and I know that isn’t going to fly.

“It’s just a different society we’re in now.”

http://www.dispatch.com/content/sto...e-kids-say-football-not-worth-the-effort.html

While football dropped by about 2,500 players since 2006 to ’07, the number of boys playing lacrosse has increased by 1,700, the number of cross-country runners has increased by 1,100, and the number of soccer players has increased by 360. “Part of the appeal might be that whether you’re good at it or not, when you’re on the field you’re running around constantly, which a lot of kids seem to enjoy,” Wetzel said.

http://www.bostonglobe.com/opinion/...rity-boxing/Dq99wTL1rxjrnPwOvhmSTL/story.html

There are also budget issues causing some schools to drop football since it is the most expensive sport. I'd imagine the same issues are causing some municipalities to cut pop warner programs due to lack of financial support.
 
I fear in another 5o years football will be like boxing. Only the kids from the most desperate economic conditions will take up the game.
 
Google "most miserable states to live in" and you will see several articles.

Here is an example:

http://www.usatoday.com/story/money/business/2014/02/23/most-miserable-states/5729305/

I have serious reservations about the validity of these rankings. Nevertheless, in this ranking the most miserable states are all states with state schools in P5 conferences. In fact 2 of the P5 conferences dominate this most miserable states list while also dominating in the actual football rankings. This is odd to say the least, and I have to wonder if it is an aberration. The states that comprise the Pac12 and the ACC schools are not among the most miserable states at least in this ranking.

I'm guessing that these most miserable states lists changes from year to year. Let's just hope New York can avoid that distinction although it may already be ranked among one of the most miserable states in one of the many rankings I haven't seen.
 
Google "most miserable states to live in" and you will see several articles.

Here is an example:

http://www.usatoday.com/story/money/business/2014/02/23/most-miserable-states/5729305/

I have serious reservations about the validity of these rankings. Nevertheless, in this ranking the most miserable states are all states with state schools in P5 conferences. In fact 2 of the P5 conferences dominate this most miserable states list while also dominating in the actual football rankings. This is odd to say the least, and I have to wonder if it is an aberration. The states that comprise the Pac12 and the ACC schools are not among the most miserable states at least in this ranking.

I'm guessing that these most miserable states lists changes from year to year. Let's just hope New York can avoid that distinction although it may already be ranked among one of the most miserable states in one of the many rankings I haven't seen.

Hey West Virginia finaly won something!
 
I think it's an issue of a societal change. Anyone that plays football knows you have to bust your hind parts to be a player. A lot of kids today don't want to dedicate their time to offseason training when there are other sports they can simply show up and play.

“The kids are telling me they don’t want to spend their summer in the heat practicing,” said Miller, who plans to retire after this, his 23rd season. “They’d rather sit in the air conditioning and watch TV and play video games. They say they’re willing to come out when the season starts, but you and I know that isn’t going to fly.

“It’s just a different society we’re in now.”
What's interesting about this is that year round participation in one sport prior to college is a recent phenomenon. The best athletes used to be the kids that were multi-sport stars. There are lots of recent studies indicating that focusing on one sport too early is contributing to an increase in over use injuries and early burnout among youth athletes. Dr. James Andrews started looking at injuries among young athletes when he saw a spike in the number and type of surgeries he was performing on kids that he used to only perform on adults and has said that kids shouldn't focus on only one sport until their senior year in high school.

The sad part about your quote is that when kids aren't playing there organized sport they're sitting on their butts instead of finding other kids to do other active things with. That's also contributing to the increase in youth sports injuries. Kids aren't establishing proper movement patterns at early ages through free play.
 
Do you have any stats for each party/states on Chewing Tobbacco?

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What's interesting about this is that year round participation in one sport prior to college is a recent phenomenon. The best athletes used to be the kids that were multi-sport stars. There are lots of recent studies indicating that focusing on one sport too early is contributing to an increase in over use injuries and early burnout among youth athletes. Dr. James Andrews started looking at injuries among young athletes when he saw a spike in the number and type of surgeries he was performing on kids that he used to only perform on adults and has said that kids shouldn't focus on only one sport until their senior year in high school.

The sad part about your quote is that when kids aren't playing there organized sport they're sitting on their butts instead of finding other kids to do other active things with. That's also contributing to the increase in youth sports injuries. Kids aren't establishing proper movement patterns at early ages through free play.

That's part of it but overall I feel like it's a time issue.

My personal experience: I played HS football, I have a 13 year old son who thinks he wants to play football. His mom doesn't want him to for fear of injuries (which I understand having had multiple football concussions myself), but the other part of my convo with him is "No you really don't. You don't have the requisite time for it since it would take away from other sports". He runs XC(fall), Track(spring), basketball (winter), Soccer (spring), run club (summer and winter).

He doesn't have the time to dedicate to a football playbook and if you don't know the plays in football you get wrecked in a hurry. Football is the one sport you can't just show up and play without adequate prep time. Until he shows me more dedication outside of required practices in other sport and is willing to give some up, I won't even entertain it and I love love the sport.
 

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