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Message: [QUOTE="anomander, post: 1234995, member: 2766"] The point is with the talent we are going to bring in we can't afford to be just OK in terms of player development. We have to be elite if we want to be a successful ACC program. For all the Marrone haters that want to say he won because of guys like Sales, Lemon, Nassib, Pugh, Bromley, etc. well you have to look at who made those guys into the players that they turned out to be. Sure they are talented, but those are all 2 star kids that Marrone and his staff turned into all league players, and NFL draft picks. In Shafer's first 2 years we haven't seen anywhere near that development. A lot of this has to do with choosing a staff. Marrone got some of the best he could find. The hiring of buddies isn't really a good start. [/QUOTE]