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Message: [QUOTE="anomander, post: 1235051, member: 2766"] You don't have to speculate on Nassib, Pugh, Sales, Lemon, or Bromley. Then there are guys like Provo, Smith, Shamarko, and Chan Jones. Sure Marrone was just .500, but he took over a bottom of the barrel program. Anyways this isn't supposed to be a Marrone vs Shafer thing. I was just pointing out examples of what Marrone and his staff were able to with 2 and 3 star talent. If Shafer is going to be successful we need to see player development. You are right 2 years isn't nearly enough to see what he can do with the guys he brought in, but so far the development of the kids who started the year before he took over isn't looking all that great. A lot of this falls to the individual position coach, but ultimately it's the HC who it comes back to. This shows just how big of a risk it was hiring your buddies. [/QUOTE]