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Message: [QUOTE="CardiacCuse, post: 5316633, member: 6979"] its not a joke. but i agree thats its not infallible and cant be taken on face value as a referendum 100% of the time there can be mitgating circumstances... but when combined with the eye test...it can also be very valuable just becuase there are indeed conceivable scenarios where it misrepresents a given players' cntribution...doesnt mean it isnt useful if, for example, the same player is always one of the worst + -...then maybe it reveals something [/QUOTE]