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Message: [QUOTE="CJSyr, post: 26164, member: 372"] I really don't understand people who make this argument. What they DID is entirely dependent upon what Syracuse DID or DIDN'T do. You change ANY variable and the outcome could be entirely different. Up 2, Syracuse would play tighter defense...probably take some risks...put more pressure on the quarterback...any number of things. To suggest that Toledo would still have gotten a field goal is as much speculation as anything else anyone has said. The point you don't seem to realize is that when ANY variable changes, nothing is going to be exactly the same. We're not talking about "fate" here. We're talking about human choices and will. When one thing changes, it affects almost everything afterwards. You even said it yourself... "who knows what would've happened after?" Only you choose to give Toledo a field goal when the call in question would have made the score 29-27. Again, using your words: "how can you argue it?" [/QUOTE]