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Message: [QUOTE="wooddoc, post: 2386521, member: 5496"] Is the glass half full? Half empty? The point is... there's a glass. What I'm saying is that, in my opinion anyway, SU has a coach who knows how to win, by causing his team to know how to win. The program is still in a sort of prototype stage, and we fans have had our psyches sent all over the place, as a result. For me, anyway, yeah, watching today's game was painful, to say the least - but the big pain was for what has been left of the team, after getting thrashed in three close ones, (and you know which three I mean,) and coming away with a big time win in one of them. Despite being physically outgunned, these guys are still suiting up, and I'd be damned to call any of them losers; they are NOT losers, but they are beat up. I saw "time" and "patience" in the comments and those two items equal commitment, to me. This Syracuse team has a winning spirit, and that's a foundation for something good. I'm in. [/QUOTE]