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Message: [QUOTE="Coach Orange, post: 921089, member: 2260"] To be truthful, I have changed my mind on the play. When I wrote my original post, I was going off of my memory of the play as it happened last night and the pictures of it. Since then, I have watched the play several times, and I agree that the Rule of Verticality doesn't apply as Christmas did not clearly establish defensive position (as both you and Cowtown have stated). The key to any good discussion is the willingness to listen (or read) open-mindedly and to reconsider positions when new evidence is presented. That's what I am doing here. That said, after viewing the play repeatedly, I also agree that, because the ball was clearly blocked prior to contact, the contact was then incidental. Therefore, it was still not a foul--at least not one so blatant that the official had no choice but to call it. [/QUOTE]