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Message: [QUOTE="tipphill, post: 5574206, member: 4809"] as i said yesterday to marsh lets see what recruits will actually come . the defections have already begun. brown needs a mentor, less self pride, more maturity as a head coach. i really don't care what he "learned" from notre dame in terms of having a defense or offense. he should have known that w/o notre dame showing him. RATHER what growth have you had this year as a head coach and ceo????? i venture to cay not much. throwing freshman to the wolves, demoralizing players, demonstrating an inability to lead, foster confidence, growth and make decisions. fire him??? big football factories would. he needs help. my concern is he mature enough to get it . i like to think so and hope that he does and becomes the head coach we all want. [/QUOTE]