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[QUOTE="Knicks411, post: 1109742, member: 767"]
At Memphis he went 214-67, and made 3 elite 8's, including a title game, which he was basically a few free throws away from winning a title.  That's not very successful?  The 2008 SU team basically had 3 Mcdonalds AA on the roster, even after Eric got hurt (Paul made it, then was taken off, count it how you want); they pretty clearly underachieved.  Doesn't mean JB is a bad coach.

The Rose possibly being ineligible stuff doesn't really do much for me; I'm trying to evaluate what he (Cal) has accomplished.  Rose was eligible, he did play, and regardless of what the NCAA wants to say, Memphis did win those games.  Same thing with the one and done rule.  So what?  That was the rule, and he did get those players, and he did win games with them.  Every coach would be worse if you took away their better players.  Duke wouldn't have been any good if there was no one and done rule last year, that doesn't mean Coach K is a worse coach.

Just seems like you're throwing up roadblocks for Cal you aren't for other coaches.
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