Freeney

[jgeorge322]

still picking up sacks and closing in on hof numbers

 

[shandeezy7]

still picking up sacks and closing in on hof numbers

He has to be a shoe-in hall of famer, right? The dominance. The stats. The longevity. He was arguably the most feared pass-rusher of his era. Offenses had to game plan around him. He played on an Indy team that did not have a very good defense. He was literally double teamed, triple teamed, chipped, etc. and he still put up all those numbers.

 

[44PRIDE]

Good for him. I know he had some money management problems early in his career. Hope he gets another year or two in the league to pad his finances.

 

[Stern]

He has to be a shoe-in hall of famer, right? The dominance. The stats. The longevity. He was arguably the most feared pass-rusher of his era. Offenses had to game plan around him. He played on an Indy team that did not have a very good defense. He was literally double teamed, triple teamed, chipped, etc. and he still put up all those numbers.

No way he is a "shoe-in" and easy there with the most feared pass rusher of his era when you have Michael Strahan, Jason Taylor, Julius Peppers and Jared Allen in his era and they all have more sacks than Freeney. You have guys like Taylor who have 20+ more sacks than Freeney in the same amount of years played.

I don't think Freeney gets in. The man 3rd all time on the sack list isn't in the Hall of Fame (Kevin Greene). Guys with more sacks who "should" get in before him in the next decade or so are Taylor, Allen, Peppers, Ware, Rice. It's gonna be tough for Freeney and I just don't see it happening with only 115 career sacks and 20th all time on the list in regards to sacks.

 

[Millhouse]

No way he is a "shoe-in" and easy there with the most feared pass rusher of his era when you have Michael Strahan, Jason Taylor, Julius Peppers and Jared Allen in his era and they all have more sacks than Freeney. You have guys like Taylor who have 20+ more sacks than Freeney in the same amount of years played.

I don't think Freeney gets in. The man 3rd all time on the sack list isn't in the Hall of Fame (Kevin Greene). Guys with more sacks who "should" get in before him in the next decade or so are Taylor, Allen, Peppers, Ware, Rice. It's gonna be tough for Freeney and I just don't see it happening with only 115 career sacks and 20th all time on the list in regards to sacks.

i don't know the rankings but freeney forced so many fumbles, he has gotta be near the top in forced fumbled per game. sacks are great but they get way too much attention and forced fumbles gets way too little, I think

 

[Finwad32]

No way he is a "shoe-in" and easy there with the most feared pass rusher of his era when you have Michael Strahan, Jason Taylor, Julius Peppers and Jared Allen in his era and they all have more sacks than Freeney. You have guys like Taylor who have 20+ more sacks than Freeney in the same amount of years played.

I don't think Freeney gets in. The man 3rd all time on the sack list isn't in the Hall of Fame (Kevin Greene). Guys with more sacks who "should" get in before him in the next decade or so are Taylor, Allen, Peppers, Ware, Rice. It's gonna be tough for Freeney and I just don't see it happening with only 115 career sacks and 20th all time on the list in regards to sacks.

Rice in front of Freeney, ok.

EDIT: It's closer than expected statistically. But, Rice was a significantly different player. Rice had 25 career FF's to Freeney's 44. Rice had 5 Int's and Freeney had none.

Still, different players. And I doubt Rice goes in ahead of Freeney because reputation does matter, and Freeney's is bigger.

 

[shandeezy7]

i don't know the rankings but freeney forced so many fumbles, he has gotta be near the top in forced fumbled per game. sacks are great but they get way too much attention and forced fumbles gets way too little, I think

According to this, he's 5th all-time* in forced fumbles.

*All time = since 1991, when the stat was officially recorded

 

[orange79]

i don't know the rankings but freeney forced so many fumbles, he has gotta be near the top in forced fumbled per game. sacks are great but they get way too much attention and forced fumbles gets way too little, I think

This is exactly what could tip the scales in his favor.

 

[Stern]

Sack Total > Forced Fumbles When you hear about d-linemen getting into the hall of fame its all about the sack total, no offense nobody ever brings up forced fumbles. Freeney has lot of guys in front of him who deserve to be in before him. Not saying its impossible for him to get in, but it ain't a shoe in and if I were betting I would be no

 

[CusefanATL]

He has to be a shoe-in hall of famer, right? The dominance. The stats. The longevity. He was arguably the most feared pass-rusher of his era. Offenses had to game plan around him. He played on an Indy team that did not have a very good defense. He was literally double teamed, triple teamed, chipped, etc. and he still put up all those numbers.

He is still 10 or so sacks away from HOF stats. He was only the most feared pass rusher on his team for a few years.

It will be iffy because of his last 5 or 6 years. and then he has the 2 duds in his prime (1 of which he missed 6ish games)

 

[shandeezy7]

He is still 10 or so sacks away from HOF stats. He was only the most feared pass rusher on his team for a few years.

It will be iffy because of his last 5 or 6 years. and then he has the 2 duds in his prime (1 of which he missed 6ish games)

Robert Mathis was not more feared than Dwight Freeney, until maybe the end of Freeney's time in Indy. If anything, Mathis was the beneficiary of the attention Freeney received. If you look at Mathis, his worst year statistically (2007), aside from his rookie year, was the same year that Freeney missed most of the season. And even after Freeney's basic non-existence in the league the last three years, he still has the edge on Mathis in career sacks.

 

[upperdeck]

freeney faced more double teams than any of the guys listed above. you look at the college guys with sack numbers and then think back of how teams like Miami triple teamed him his last year.

 

[CusefanATL]

And even after Freeney's basic non-existence in the league the last three years, he still has the edge on Mathis in career sacks.

I hate to be that guy... but Mathis has 115 and Freeney has 114.5

 

[upperdeck]

sacks are like INTs the best cover guy doesnt get the INTs cause they dont throw at him. if one great DE kills you, you cover him with the TE and the back and the other DE gets free shots, and if he is good he gets sacks.