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Message: [QUOTE="sufandu, post: 1608430, member: 874"] I don't claim to know how this works. At one time Art Monk was the all time leader in receptions and set a record for receptions in one season before the league was throwing it all over the place, and he was on a team that won 3 superbowls. How long did it take him to get in? Don't mistake me for someone that doeesn't think he's great. He one of my all time favorites, take a look at my avatar. I just think the arguments that some people brought up have merit and the HOF voters may not remember him as fondly as SU fans do. I think his numbers could've been better had the colts ever drafted decent d-tackles that allowed them to actually stop the run and force teams into more passing downs. [/QUOTE]