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Message: [QUOTE="Shenexon, post: 381650, member: 129"] I really like your optimism and have felt the same, but there is ample room for debate about the performance of the team and coaching. All teams will always have What losses, but we've lost too many that we should have won to attribute all of the losses to random occurrence. Winning will improve recruiting which will improve winning, etc. so it's frustrating when this is a year that SU could attract good talent if we could get to a bowl. If the general trend of losing continues, it will become a lost opportunity to become more attractive to good athletes that want to win. If we want better talent and better coaching, we need wins and badly. The coaching is always easier and better when we win. We may be close, but we aren't winning enough to substantiate that the team is more successful in a public way. Only fans look for moral victories. The rest of the world looks at the W-L record. [/QUOTE]