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Message: [QUOTE="SWC75, post: 1308768, member: 289"] The St. John's series, (see page 90 of this year's media guide), has been an interesting one. They were the kings of New York City basketball for decades when college basketball was big there and we never got NYC recruits back in those days. It was upstate kids and Pennsylvania kids vs. the city kids and we came up short. Our 1970-71 roster had one guy from the big city, Nate Plummer, a 6-4 forward who played in 6 games and scored 3 points for us that year. Others: ArtBarr from Verona, Pa. Bruce Batholomew from Cortland NY John Crabill from Forest Hills NY Billa nd Bob Finney from peru NY Tom Green from Brockway, Pa. Gil Guerrero form Toledo, Ohio Greg Kohls from Hyde Park NY Mike lee from Kirkwood, NY Bob McDaniel form Plainfield, NJ Paul Piotrowski from New York Mills, NY Bill Smith from Rochester NY Mark Wadach from Syracuse Ny Chuck Wichman from Washingotn, Ind and Mark Ziolko for Orchard Park, NY, (a perennial at our 'old timers' events) Through the 1969-70 season we'd played St. John's 20 times and won four of those games, the last two with Dave Bing in the line-up. That's what made the 2/17/71 game so special. We were beating them for the first time since we had Bing and we were beating the city kids. We're 47-21 vs. the Johnnies since that game. St. John's was 8-2 and ranked #17/13 in the writer's and coach's polls when we beat them at their place 86-83 on 1/8/72. They finished 19-11. They were 17-2 and ranked #9/13 when we beat them on 2/14/73 in Manley. They tumbled to a 19-7 record after that. We beat them again down there, 72-71 on 1/12/74 but they were unranked , even though they finished 20-7 that year. We beat them for a 5th straight time, 75-66 at Manley on 12/10/74. They were unranked but finished 21-10. Then they clobbered us 78-100 in Jamaica on 2/21/76. They were 18-3 and ranked #16 in both polls, winding up 23-6. It seemed like the old days. But then came Louie and Bouie and suddenly it was the new days. [/QUOTE]

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