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Message: [QUOTE="upperdeck, post: 1960745, member: 474"] actually pretty surprising but i guess if you look at the fact NC state had solid chances to beat Clemson and FSU and we were a bad call away from a chance to tie it up late maybe its not as farfetched as it might seem. One thing thats been surprising in a bad way is we havent really gotten a teams worst effort all year in regards to mistakes. clemson had multiple games of several TOs and we got their cleanest game. it would help if we got a sloppy FSU effort [/QUOTE]