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Message: [QUOTE="Cusefan95, post: 5591222, member: 173"] I think what both FSU and Penn State are realizing is they have structural issues that make them les desirable to coaches than other programs. FSU figured it out first, and its part of why they made an unhinged push to join the SEC. However, that's just a band-aid that wouldn't stick even if they managed to apply it. Penn State is getting repeatedly punched in the face with this reality as their coaching search goes further and further off the rails. I expect as time goes on, both those programs are going to watch as they fall further and further from relevance in college football - the things they need to change are so deeply embedded in the culture of the schools that I don't think its possible. [/QUOTE]