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Message: [QUOTE="OrangePA, post: 2368835, member: 204"] You said 20 years. Sorry to be a stickler for facts. There were two major bowls in there. There were no repeated "nut kicks" as you so eloquently put it. If you had focused on the Robinson years or two of the Shafer years that would have been a bit more accurate. 1999 and 2000 were the product of Vick's decision and our weakness at QB. And 2001 was a reflection of outstanding coaching and a dominant defensive player - along with a few other solid players. I tend to look at the program in a positive light. Take care. [/QUOTE]