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Message: [QUOTE="SmilinBob, post: 4945662, member: 857"] When I used to post on Rivals I noticed how big of a phallic thing a lot of fans had. Bigger stadiums and the like and there was simply not a lot of logic to their debates/thoughts in many cases. It was extremely annoying and very difficult just to get a decent conversation going and FSU fans were right up there. Many FSU fans were embarrassed about being in the ACC and having schools that would play teams "below" their level on the road such as a MAC school or ODU and the like. You could see how they were bothered by the SEC or Big 10 fans regarding things like this. [/QUOTE]