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Message: [QUOTE="WoadBlue, post: 4946872, member: 1145"] You make a very good point, part way, about FSU and current academic standing. When the ACC offered FSU, FSU was told that ACC membership would deliver 3 things to FSU: 1) it finally would win football National Championships; 2 ) its athletics department as a whole would stop losing money and become not just financially solvent but would be able to sponsor new sports and have them become nationally competitive; 3) that the university's reputation as just a Gulf Coast party school would be transformed over time so that FSU would be ranked highly with admission to both undergraduate and postgraduate programs selective and esteemed. The ACC delivered on all 3. How much has all of that been worth to FSU? [/QUOTE]