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Message: [QUOTE="baggerbob, post: 5119630, member: 164"] Another problem the ACC has always had is they are perceived as a Basketball Conference. That's why leaving everything in North Carolina was always a bad idea. Outsiders look at North Carolina, NC St, Duke, and Wake Forest as basketball schools with no real history in football. The Schools with history, are Miami, FSU, Clemson, Virginia Tech, Georgia Tech, Syracuse, and Pittsburgh. But people first think of Where the conference is located, and basketball comes as their first thought. [/QUOTE]