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Message: [QUOTE="TheCusian, post: 5122513, member: 2585"] So in your reading of things, the ACC gained nothing in adding Syracuse? The members voted us in because they what, felt bad? ND is choosing to stay independent and it’s a selfish move that absolutely works for them. We joined a conference selfishly *but by its very nature of being a relationship defined by equal shares, contracts, GOR, etc* makes us in it together. Which is unselfish. That FSU and Clemson are looking to remove itself from its obligations now *is* selfish because it breaks the agreement. If we did the same thing, we’d be open to that same criticism. The point remains, what ND’s status and Syracuses status are not the same. They are not fully in a mutually beneficial arrangement for football. [/QUOTE]