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Message: [QUOTE="baggerbob, post: 834585, member: 164"] What would have gotten us in the ACC the first time was our perception of being strong in Football, and Basketball. As I pointed out some time ago, from 1987-2003 only 16 schools ended in the top 25 in football more then we did. In 17 years, Florida St-17, Michigan-17, Miami-16, Nebraska-16, Tennessee-14, Florida-13, Notre Dame-12, Auburn-11, Georgia-11, Texas A & M-11, Penn St-11, Colorado-10, Kansas St-10, Ohio St-10, Alabama-10 Texas-10, Oklahoma-9, Syracuse-9, everyone else had 8 or less. There were 4 schools at 8 USC, Washington, Clemson, Virginia Tech. With Scott I expect us to get back to that kind of status, we've been there, we can get back there again. We weren't in a real football conference back then just a hybrid, the recruiting now can go the entire Midwest, and all along the East Coast. [/QUOTE]